Episode 125

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7th Jan 2026

How Shane Gring Thinks About Trust, AI, and Credentials

What happens to trust when AI can generate “smart-sounding” narratives at scale? Kenny sits down with Shane Gring (Founder of Certainly) to unpack why authority is shifting, why attention is becoming a commodity, and how leaders can stand out with a real point of view—not just polished content. They break down the difference between a course and a certification, what “high-integrity” credentialing actually means, and how to know when your expertise is ready to become a credential. If you’re building influence in a noisy market, this episode will help you create signal people can trust.


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Shane Gring Resources

Website: certainly.coop

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/shanegring/


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How Leaders Think with Kenny Lange
Discover the secrets to impactful leadership with How Leaders Think, hosted by Kenny Lange.
Discover the secrets to impactful leadership with How Leaders Think, hosted by Kenny Lange. This podcast is your go-to resource for insights from top leaders across various industries. Each episode delves into the minds of successful entrepreneurs, CEOs, and thought leaders to uncover strategies for personal and professional growth.

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Kenny Lange helps faith-forward founders scale organizations without losing their soul, their people, or their mission.

After selling his first company and helping an agency nearly double revenue, Kenny discovered that scaling success can be just as hard as finding it. He's the creator of Lead to Scale™—a proven approach that guides leaders from chaos to Predictable Success.

Kenny hosts How Leaders Think, a globally top 10% podcast named a 2025 "must-listen" by MSN. His clients say he "cuts through the noise" and helps teams move from status meetings to strategic conversations.

Beyond business, Kenny and his wife Rebekah are on a mission to positively impact 10,000 kids by 2033.