Episode 136

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1st Apr 2026

How Ryan Hogan Thinks About Product Market Fit for Scalable Growth

What does it really take to find product-market fit—and keep it as your business grows? In this conversation, Ryan Hogan shares lessons from scaling companies, evolving business models, and learning to listen to the market without losing direction.

He breaks down why services must be productized to scale, how AI is creating both opportunity and distraction, and why critical thinking is becoming one of the most valuable leadership skills today.

If you're building, leading, or trying to grow something meaningful, this episode will challenge how you think about strategy, execution, and what actually drives results.

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Ryan Hogan Resources

Website — https://talentharbor.com/

LinkedIn — https://www.linkedin.com/in/ryanehogan/

YouTube — https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCtRyIgFE14smkGlCVtwnhbw

Confessions of an EOS Implementer — https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/confessions-of-an-implementer/id1740510216

Confessions of a Vistage Chair — https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/confessions-of-a-vistage-chair/id1872757018

Books Mentioned

Competing Against Luck — Clayton Christensen

Hashtags

#HowLeadersThink #ProductMarketFit #Leadership #BusinessGrowth

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How Leaders Think with Kenny Lange
Discover the secrets to impactful leadership with How Leaders Think, hosted by Kenny Lange.
Discover the secrets to impactful leadership with How Leaders Think, hosted by Kenny Lange. This podcast is your go-to resource for insights from top leaders across various industries. Each episode delves into the minds of successful entrepreneurs, CEOs, and thought leaders to uncover strategies for personal and professional growth.

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- The intersection of personal growth and spirituality

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Kenny Lange

Kenny Lange helps faith-forward founders scale organizations without losing their soul, their people, or their mission.

After selling his first company and helping an agency nearly double revenue, Kenny discovered that scaling success can be just as hard as finding it. He's the creator of Lead to Scale™—a proven approach that guides leaders from chaos to Predictable Success.

Kenny hosts How Leaders Think, a globally top 10% podcast named a 2025 "must-listen" by MSN. His clients say he "cuts through the noise" and helps teams move from status meetings to strategic conversations.

Beyond business, Kenny and his wife Rebekah are on a mission to positively impact 10,000 kids by 2033.