Episode 128

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4th Feb 2026

How Randy Griffin Thinks About Fear vs Faith for Leading With Peace

What if the biggest threat to your leadership isn’t your strategy — but your need for control? In this episode of How Leaders Think, Kenny Lange talks with Randy Griffin, Chair at C12 North Texas, about the two “operating systems” leaders live from: fear and faith. They unpack why high-achieving Christian leaders can get results while quietly losing margin, peace, and joy — and how Jesus invites us into partnership, surrender, and formation instead of performance. If you’ve been trying to “optimize” your way to peace, this conversation will reframe what healthy, kingdom-minded leadership actually looks like.


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Randy Griffin Resources:

Website: https://c12northtexas.com

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/texasfaith/


Chapters:

00:00 - The question you’re avoiding

00:45 - Welcome & Randy’s background

02:00 - Leaders are tired: no margin in soul

03:30 - “Optimize more” vs true rest

04:35 - Matthew 11: Jesus’ yoke & rest

07:30 - Two operating systems: fear vs faith

09:45 - Holy productivity vs burnout

12:00 - Loving work without losing your soul

14:15 - Moving from 1.0 to a new OS

17:25 - Recovery & control as addiction

20:10 - “Just enough” is the lie

22:00 - People are God’s highest value

27:15 - Leadership as formation

31:10 - Why success can block surrender

35:45 - 24-hour step: name it & share it

40:15 - How to connect with Randy

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#HowLeadersThink #ChristianLeadership #FaithAtWork #LeadershipDevelopment

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Kenny Lange

Kenny Lange helps faith-forward founders scale organizations without losing their soul, their people, or their mission.

After selling his first company and helping an agency nearly double revenue, Kenny discovered that scaling success can be just as hard as finding it. He's the creator of Lead to Scale™—a proven approach that guides leaders from chaos to Predictable Success.

Kenny hosts How Leaders Think, a globally top 10% podcast named a 2025 "must-listen" by MSN. His clients say he "cuts through the noise" and helps teams move from status meetings to strategic conversations.

Beyond business, Kenny and his wife Rebekah are on a mission to positively impact 10,000 kids by 2033.